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Assessing Overall Candidate Promises |
EDITOR'S NOTE: All of a candidates' actions and promises on immigration are considered in these three overarching categories --
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| OFFICIAL STANCE ON AMNESTY on Amnesty/Legalization for illegal aliens and on Attrition Through Enforcement that pushes illegal aliens to go back home: NONE |
The following is a partial transcript of the Jan. 13, 2008, edition of "FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace": WALLACE: You have a comprehensive plan that calls for building a fence, both a physical fence and a high-tech fence, to secure the border. You also talk about immediately deporting any illegals who commit crimes, but that's still going to leave, by some estimates, 10 million people here. What would you do with them? GIULIANI: What you would do is you would secure the border. You'd have the fence. The fence would stop people from coming in. You'd set up a rule that to come into the United States, you have to identify yourself, which, after all, is no different than the rule in just about any other country. You'd have a tamper-proof I.D. card. You'd get that working. And once it was working, what you would do is you'd deport the people who are criminals. You'd let the other people come forward who are here, who want to get fingerprinted, photographed, checked out, put on the rolls, paying taxes. The people who didn't come forward you would focus on, and you would throw them out of the country. And you probably would also find that a number of those people that won't come forward will also leave. WALLACE: But I want to... GIULIANI: So your number -- well, let me just finish that, Chris. So your number -- what you've got to do with the, OK, 10 million here, 12 million here, is you've got to get that number down to a number that is deportable, that fits within a system that will deport them. At multiple millions like that, it's numbers that the government can't deal with. So if you get rid of the criminals... WALLACE: But what will you do -- but what will you do with the ones -- let's say 8 million, 6 million, whatever -- who haven't broken the law, who are willing to pay taxes, willing to pay a fine? What do you do with them? GIULIANI: You let them sign up. You let them get fingerprinted, photographed. You assure yourself that they're safe, decent people, that they're working, that they're now working on the rolls. You'll get the tax revenues from them. They will be paying their fair share. And in essence, you create a self-selection process among those people. But you'll be doing it with the borders secure, with the borders now in a situation where more people can't come in. If you try to do that before you secure the borders, your 12 million might become 16 million or 18 million. WALLACE: But, Mayor, that sure sounds like amnesty for that self-selected group of people. GIULIANI: Not at all. If they ever wanted to become citizens, they would have to get on the back of the line. They couldn't get ahead of anyone else. They would have to pay fines. And then at the end of the road, anyone on any of these lists would have to be able to read English, write English, speak English. There would be substantial things that had to be done. Amnesty is being free and clear of all penalties of any kind. WALLACE: But you wouldn't make them leave the country, would you? GIULIANI: They'd have to pay a penalty. WALLACE: But you wouldn't make them leave the... GIULIANI: No. The way I would do it is the -- the way I would do it is the way I just suggested. I think that's the only way. In terms of the numbers you're talking about, and the ability of the federal government to actually get it done, that would really be the best way to get it done. But critical to all of this, Chris, is you have got to secure the borders first. None of this can work if you don't secure the borders, because any kind of solution that you have for the people that are here, no matter how rational it is, would end up just having the problem run away from you if you don't secure the borders first.
"[W]hen we have control of our borders, when we preserve the legality of immigration, we can then turn to the people that are here. We can have them get the tamper-proof ID card. The people that come forward can sign up... But the people who want to come forward should be allowed to come forward."
December 9, 2007; GOP Univision Debate
Asked to clarify his recent statement that illegal immigration "is not a crime" by TownHall.com, Giuliani responded:
"Giuliani outlined his views about immigration during a recent campaign appearance in Boone, Iowa. The issue arose when Boone resident Maxine Redeker asked him what he would do about the illegal immigrants whose children, having been born in the United States, are citizens. She asked, will the parents of those children be allowed to remain in the United States? Giuliani's answer, in its most simplistic form, was yes, if they're good people. If they're not, they will be sent home. 'Look at the ones who are productive, decent people,' he said. 'Give them a card, get them to pay taxes. Those people who have children who are here -- fine, no problem. The ones who are committing crimes, we have to throw out of the country. No matter whether they have children or not .. I don't know how you're going to do that,' Redeker told Giuliani. 'You can do that,' he said. 'You let them come forward. You let them come forward, you identify them, you figure out who they are. The ones who don't come forward, you find them and throw them out. But in order to do that you have to first have control over your borders.'" August 16, 2007; The Washington Post
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Overall Policies on Future ILLEGAL Immigration |
| EDITOR'S NOTE: See lower on this page for stances on 8 specific measures to stop illegal immigration. This section contains information about aspects not covered by those categories. The rating on this section found on the Presidential Grid is based on the 8 specific ratings and the information in this section. |
"To make expanded legal immigration possible today, the government must first restore public faith in government's commitment and capacity to shut down illegal immigration. 'It reminds me of the things I had to do to reduce crime in New York,' he said. 'I first had to give people confidence that it could be done.'" December 7, 2007; The Trail (Washington Post) |
Overall Stance on Permanent Legal Numbers |
| EDITOR'S NOTE: Stances on specific legal immigration categories (Chain Migration, Lottery, Worker Importation & Birthright Citizenship) are shown lower on this page. This category contains additional comments, especially any positions about what the overall annual immigration number should be. The overall grade on legal numbers on the Grid is based on this section and the four specific categories. |
OFFICIAL STANCE on reducing LEGAL immigration numbers:
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"[W]e'd have I think what we all want to have, which is a country that's open to people from all over the world, but open to people who come in, who have identified themselves and want to participate in building America,' Giuliani said." November 19, 2007; The Associated Press
"Immigration is wonderful," he said. "Immigration is the best thing we have going for us. We need new people. We need people who are going to inform us, give us new ideas, but it has to be legal ... Illegal immigration is a bad thing." October 2, 2007; New York Daily News  "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro-immigrant than I am, including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago, which we got some amendments of to protect the rights of immigrants." Unspecified date in 2000; NBC's Meet the Press  |
Assessment of Past Immigration Actions |
| EDITOR'S NOTE: Candidates who have served in Congress have an extensive record on federal immigration issues which have been weighed and graded. Other candidates have had less opportunity to deal with immigration at other levels of government. |
"New York became a sanctuary city, where illegal immigrants enjoy some measure of protection, through an executive order signed by Mayor Ed Koch in 1989, five years before Giuliani became mayor in January 1994. But if Giuliani inherited the policy, he reissued it and seemed to embrace it." "Romney: Giuliani's NYC 'Sanctuary' For Illegal Immigrants,"August 8, 2007; ABC News
Guiliani said: 'If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you're one of the people who we want in this city. You're somebody that we want to protect, and we want you to get out from under what is often a life of being like a fugitive, which is really unfair.'" December 12, 2007; The New York Times |
Assessing Specific Stances on LEGAL IMMIGRATION |
EDITOR'S NOTE: Unless the following four categories of legal immigration are changed, current policies will add 100 million additional people to the United States over the next few decades. |
Chain Migration |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on Chain Migration of extended adult family members: NONE |
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Visa Lottery |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on randomly raffling green cards to foreigners: NONE |
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IMPORTING FOREIGN WORKERS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on protecting Americans' jobs and wages from foreign workers: NONE | Please email information. |
Citizenship for Births to ILLEGAL ALIENS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on giving U.S. citizenship for births to illegal aliens: NONE |
"Republican White House hopeful Rudy Giuliani said Friday he wouldn't try to change laws that make citizens of children born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants, noting that it's a matter determined by the Constitution. 'That's a very delicate balance that's been arrived at, and I wouldn't change that,' Giuliani said..." December 1, 2007; The Associated Press |
Assessing Specific Stances on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION |
EDITORS NOTE: Here are 8 very important steps needed to halt illegal immigration. Aspects not included in this section are included in the section above about Overall Policies on Future Illegal Immigration. |
MANDATORY WORKPLACE VERIFICATION |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on keeping illegal aliens from getting jobs: NONE |
"He has proposed 'tamper-proof' ID cards and a database that would track people in the United States from foreign countries. He says that 'we need people to come forward who are working so they'll get identified, get fingerprinted, get photographed. And then we should focus our attention on the people who don't come forward.'" July 16, 2007; Des Moines Register (Iowa) |
PUNISHING EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on punishing employers who hire illegal aliens: NONE |
"Giuliani told small-business owners he would not punish them for unwittingly hiring illegal immigrants." October 30, 2007; The Associated Press |
LOCAL ENFORCEMENT of IMMIGRATION |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on empowering local enforcement of immigration laws: NONE |
"My interest as mayor of New York City was to focus on the criminals that were here. I wanted the Immigration and Naturalization Service to throw them out. At the same time, there were 400,000 illegal immigrants in New York, roughly, when I was the mayor. The immigration service could throw out no more than about 2,000 a year. So I had 398,000 illegal immigrants." May 14, 2007; FOXNews.com
"Responsibility for stopping illegal immigration belongs to the federal government and not to cities, states or businesses, Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani said Tuesday. Giuliani told small-business owners he would not punish them for unwittingly hiring illegal immigrants. Federal officials are 'trying to put the responsibility for this on employers, on city government, on state government,' the former New York mayor said during a conference call arranged by the National Federation of Independent Businesses." October 30, 2007; The Associated Press |
ENTRY/EXIT SYSTEM AT BORDERS |
OFFICIAL STANCE on implementation of entry/exit system to reduce illegal aliens who overstay visas:
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BORDER SECURITY |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on the fence and other strengthening of the border: NONE |
"You need security at the border, a fence, a technological fence to stop people from coming in before they can be illegal." December 31, 2007; Reuters
"Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani said Monday illegal immigration could be stopped within three years, using existing border-enforcement technology. Giuliani toured part of the border in the Rio Grande Valley with state and local officials, many of whom oppose the 70 miles (113 kilometers) of steel fencing that Congress has authorized for the area. 'If you apply yourself to this over an 18-month or three-year period we could accomplish that, and all of a sudden we'd have I think what we all want to have, which is a country that's open to people from all over the world, but open to people who come in, who have identified themselves and want to participate in building America,' Giuliani said. The former New York City mayor also said that while there are places on the border where a physical fence makes sense, a virtual fence in many areas would be better. 'The virtual fence is more valuable because it alerts you to people approaching the border, it alerts you to people coming over the border,' Giuliani said, standing in front of the Rio Grande." November 19, 2007; The Associated Press
"[W]e need a fence. We need a technological fence. We need a border patrol. We need people to come forward who are working so they'll get identified, get fingerprinted, get photographed." 05/14/2007; FOXNews.com |
SANCTUARY CITIES POLICIES |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on cities and states that forbid certain enforcement of immigration laws: NONE |
"Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani was at the epicenter of the hot topic throughout the night. He was hit with the first question by a Brooklynite who said New York was a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants during his two terms as mayor. Giuliani tried to appease both sides of the immigration issue saying that during his tenure the city allowed exceptions for children of illegal immigrants to go to school; gave undocumented people free emergency medical care, and allowed "illegals" to report crimes. But, the key point he said was that 'we reported thousands and thousands and thousands of names of illegal immigrants who committed crimes to the immigration service. They did not deport them." November 30, 2007; New York Daily News "New York became a sanctuary city, where illegal immigrants enjoy some measure of protection, through an executive order signed by Mayor Ed Koch in 1989, five years before Giuliani became mayor in January 1994. But if Giuliani inherited the policy, he reissued it and seemed to embrace it." "Romney: Giuliani's NYC 'Sanctuary' For Illegal Immigrants,"August 8, 2007; ABC News |
DRIVER'S LICENSES FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on allowing illegal aliens to obtain driver's licenses: NONE |
"I called Pete King and Pete Sessions today, who are two friends of mine in Congress and supporters of mine, and I asked them to consider introducing legislation that would basically prohibit a state from giving a driver’s license or an official identification of any kind to an illegal immigrant. And it seems to me that they’re relying on a loophole in the legislation that was passed a year or so ago regarding identification and they’re saying ‘Oh you know, if they don’t want to have a REAL ID they can give out any form of identification they want.’ This would totally obstruct the enforcement of the federal immigration laws." November 8, 2007; National Review |
STATE AID TO ILLEGAL STUDENTS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on granting illegal aliens in-state tuition, scholarships and other assistance: NONE |
| The following is an excerpt from the "Report of The Human Services Division" from The Council of the City of New York (May 31, 2002) In Response To Executive Order 124, CUNY Gave In-State Tuition To Illegal Immigrants. "Responding to the 1989 Order, CUNY changed its tuition policy, applying the above provision by making undocumented or out-of-status alien students eligible for the resident rate of tuition. This policy allowed undocumented students to pay the resident tuition rate, if they had resided in New York State for twelve months or had attended a New York City high school for the previous two semesters." November 29, 2007; Newsbull.com |
GENERAL INFORMATION |
Mr. Giuliani served two terms as the 107th Mayor of the City of New York. First elected in 1993 after a campaign focusing on quality of life, crime, business and education, he was re-elected in 1997 by a wide margin. As Mayor, Mr. Giuliani returned accountability to city government and improved the quality of life for all New Yorkers. Under Mr. Giuliani's leadership, New York City became the best-known example of the resurgence of urban America. |
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