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| Campaign Website: http://www.votenader.org/index.html Contact Information: Nader 2008 for President P.O. Box 34103 Washington, D.C. 20043 (202) 441 5727 http://www.votenader.org/contact/ |
Assessing Overall Candidate Promises |
EDITOR'S NOTE: All of a candidates' actions and promises on immigration are considered in these three overarching categories --
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| OFFICIAL STANCE on Amnesty/Legalization for illegal aliens and on Attrition Through Enforcement that pushes illegal aliens to go back home: NONE |
Pat Buchanan (RN): Let’s move to immigration. We stop 1.5 million illegal aliens on our borders each year. One million still get through. There are currently 8-14 million illegal aliens in the United States. The president is mandated under the Constitution to defend the States against foreign invasion, and this certainly seems to constitute that. Ralph Nader (RN): As long as our foreign policy supports dictators and oligarchs, you are going to have desperate people moving north over the border. Part of the problem involves NAFTA. The flood of cheap corn into Mexico has dispossessed over a million Mexican farmers, and, with their families, they either go to the slums or, in their desperation, head north RN: Let’s get down to the manual labor. This is the reason the Wall Street Journal is for an open-borders policy: they want a cheap-wage policy. There are two ways to deal with that. One is to raise the minimum wage to the purchasing-power level of 1968—$8 an hour—and then, in another year, raise it to $10 an hour because the economy since 1968 has doubled in production per capita. PB: Say we went to $10 an hour minimum wage. It is 50 cents an hour in Mexico. Why wouldn’t that cause not 1.5 million, but 3 million to head straight north where they could be making 20 times what they can make minimum wage in Mexico? RN: Because 14 million Americans are unemployed or part-time employed who want full employment or have given up looking for jobs. The more the minimum wage goes up, the more they will do so-called work that Americans won’t do. They are not going to do it at $5.15 an hour and have another used car, another insurance policy, another repair bill to get to work, but they are much more likely to do it at $10 an hour. The second is to enforce the law against employers. It is hard to blame desperately poor people who want to feed their families and are willing to work their heads off. You have to start with Washington and Wall Street. PB: The Democrats have picked up on Bush’s amnesty idea and have proposed an amnesty for illegals who have been in the country for five years and who have shown that they have jobs and can support themselves. Would you support the Democratic proposal? RN: This is very difficult because you are giving a green light to cross the border illegally. I don’t like the idea of legalization because then the question is how do you prevent the next wave and the next? I like the idea of giving workers and children—they are working, they are having their taxes withheld, they are performing a valuable service, even though they are illegally here—of giving them the same benefits of any other workers. If that produces enough outrage to raise the immigration issue to a high level of visibility for public debate, that would be a good thing. June 21, 2004; The American Conservative interview with Pat Buchanan
"Consistent with his range of policies, Nader is opposed to any immigration system that favors the rich and brutalizes the poor. If enacted, his would be the first immigration policy in U.S. history to deliberately skew toward low-income workers, and offer them a full range of rights. 'The way immigration operates now ... the well-to-do can multiply their number of immigrants because ... they have connections," he said in Fresno. "There's actually a law now in the United States; you can buy yourself in: if you invest $500,000 in job-producing activities, you just come in, and that's very little known.' To help poor immigrants who want to 'do work for a short period of time that Americans don't want to do,' Nader would 'decriminalize the border,' establish work permits, provide full legal protection to anyone employed in the U.S. and their children, and allow all farm workers to be covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act. 'Right now employers have the best of both worlds, right? They exploit workers, they make huge profits, and they escape prosecution,' he said." October 24, 2000; AlterNet
"We need work permits for people who come in this country and do work, as in farm areas, instead of criminalizing the process. Second, a foreign policy that sides with workers and peasants for a change in democracy, instead of dictatorships and oligarchies, will reduce enormously the pressure of people under economic pressure and political repression from coming across the border." Nader-Buchanan debate on NBC's Meet the Press; October 1, 2000 via OntheIssues.org |
Overall Policies on Future ILLEGAL Immigration |
| EDITOR'S NOTE: See lower on this page for stances on 8 specific measures to stop illegal immigration. This section contains information about aspects not covered by those categories. The rating on this section found on the Presidential Grid is based on the 8 specific ratings and the information in this section. |
| "We need work permits for people who come in this country and do work, as in farm areas, instead of criminalizing the process. Second, a foreign policy that sides with workers and peasants for a change in democracy, instead of dictatorships and oligarchies, will reduce enormously the pressure of people under economic pressure and political repression from coming across the border. Most people don’t want to leave their native land. But there’s another immigration issue, which is the brain drain. Silicon Valley, trying to get more computer specialists, and others trying to get physicians from other countries in the Third World that desperately need them. We’ve got to stop being a hog for the skilled people abroad. There’s an African-American group that just started protesting Silicon Valley’s H-1B visa, pressure on Congress, saying there are African-Americans who are trained or could be trained to meet these jobs in the computer industry." Nader-Buchanan debate on NBC's Meet the Press; October 1, 2000 via OntheIssues.org |
Overall Stance on Permanent Legal Numbers |
| EDITOR'S NOTE: Stances on specific legal immigration categories (Chain Migration, Lottery, Worker Importation & Birthright Citizenship) are shown lower on this page. This category contains additional comments, especially any positions about what the overall annual immigration number should be. The overall grade on legal numbers on the Grid is based on this section and the four specific categories. |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on reducing LEGAL immigration numbers: NONE |
PB: The U.S. population now—primarily due to immigrants and their children coming in—is estimated to grow to over 400 million by mid-century. Would that have an adverse impact on the environment? RN: We don’t have the absorptive capacity for that many people. Over 32 million came in, in the ’90s, which is the highest in American history. PB: What would you do about it? RN: We have to control our immigration. We have to limit the number of people who come into this country illegally. PB: What level of legal immigration do you think we should have per year? RN: (No clear answer given) June 21, 2004; The American Conservative interview with Pat Buchanan |
Assessing Specific Stances on LEGAL IMMIGRATION |
EDITOR'S NOTE: Unless the following four categories of legal immigration are changed, current policies will add 100 million additional people to the United States over the next few decades. |
CHAIN MIGRATION |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on Chain Migration of extended adult family members: NONE |
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VISA LOTTERY |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on randomly raffling green cards to foreigners: NONE |
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IMPORTING FOREIGN WORKERS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on protecting Americans' jobs and wages from foreign workers: NONE |
"I don’t think the United States should be in the business of brain-draining skilled talent, especially in the Third World, because we are importing in the best engineers, scientists, software people, doctors, entrepreneurs who should be in their countries, building their own countries. We are driving the talent to these shores ... I don’t believe in giving visas to software people from the Third World when we have got all kinds of unemployed software people here." June 21, 2004; The American Conservative interview with Pat Buchanan
Asked if he considers India to be an 'oppressive regime supported by America,' and whether there should be a specific limit to H1-Bs, Nader said: 'Well, a lot of workers in this country can be trained in new computer languages. There are minority groups in this country that formed associations to highlight that. There is no shortage that can be documented that Silicon Valley is trumpeting. It's just that they want foreign, skilled computer programmers and engineers and scientists that they can push around and pay less to. 'We are hogs when it comes to brain-draining,' he continued. 'There's no country in the history of the world that has consciously drained more talent of other countries who desperately need this talent for public health, for entrepreneurship, for scientific and engineering development. And had any other country pursued that against us, we'd be extraordinarily angry at them. Put the shoe on the other foot for a change.'"October 24, 2000; AlterNet
"Most people don’t want to leave their native land. But there’s another immigration issue, which is the brain drain. Silicon Valley, trying to get more computer specialists, and others trying to get physicians from other countries in the Third World that desperately need them. We’ve got to stop being a hog for the skilled people abroad. There’s an African-American group that just started protesting Silicon Valley’s H-1B visa, pressure on Congress, saying there are African-Americans who are trained or could be trained to meet these jobs in the computer industry." Nader-Buchanan debate on NBC's Meet the Press; October 1, 2000 via OntheIssues.org |
Citizenship for Births to illegal Aliens |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on giving U.S. citizenship for births to illegal aliens: NONE |
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Assessing Specific Stances on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION |
EDITORS NOTE: Here are 8 very important steps needed to halt illegal immigration. Aspects not included in this section are included in the section above about Overall Policies on Future Illegal Immigration. |
MANDATORY WORKPLACE VERIFICATION |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on keeping illegal aliens from getting jobs: NONE |
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PUNISHING EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on punishing employers who hire illegal aliens: NONE |
| "Right now employers have the best of both worlds, right? They exploit workers, they make huge profits, and they escape prosecution." October 24, 2000; AlterNet |
LOCAL ENFORCEMENT of IMMIGRATION |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on empowering local enforcement of immigration laws: NONE |
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ENTRY/EXIT SYSTEM AT BORDERS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on implementation of entry/exit system to reduce illegal aliens who overstay visas : NONE |
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BORDER SECURITY |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on the fence and other strengthening of the border: NONE |
| "Nader would 'decriminalize the border' ... At the same time, Nader strongly opposes any proposals, such as one made recently by Mexican president-elect Vicente Fox, that the U.S.-Mexico frontier some day be made legally porous.
'We cannot have open borders, that's obviously a totally absurd proposition,' he said. 'It would depress wages here enormously. Tens of millions of people at all levels, including scientists and workers, would be poring into this country. So we have to have some sort of limit.' And even though the border would be decriminalized, Nader says it needs to be strengthened. 'We obviously have to pour more resources into the border with Mexico,' he said. 'There's too much corruption, too much smuggling, too much infectious diseases and too much pollution since NAFTA went into effect. And Clinton (and) Gore promised [that] after NAFTA was passed, that they were going to pour in a lot of resources to clean up that border, public health, transportation ... and they haven't done that. It's one of their major broken promises.'" October 24, 2000; AlterNet |
SANCTUARY CITIES POLICIES |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on cities and states that forbid certain enforcement of immigration laws: NONE |
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DRIVER'S LICENSES FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on allowing illegal aliens to obtain driver's licenses: NONE |
PB: Should they be entitled to get driver’s licenses? RN: Yes, in order to reduce hazards on the highway. If you have people who are driving illegally, there are going to be more crashes, and more people are going to be killed. June 21, 2004; The American Conservative interview with Pat Buchanan |
STATE AID TO ILLEGAL STUDENTS |
| OFFICIAL STANCE on granting illegal aliens in-state tuition, scholarships and other assistance: NONE |
PB: Should illegal aliens be entitled to social-welfare benefits, even though they are not citizens and broke into the country? RN: I think they should be given all the fair-labor standards and all the rights and benefits of American workers, and if this country doesn’t like that, maybe they will do something about the immigration laws. June 21, 2004; The American Conservative interview with Pat Buchanan |
GENERAL
INFORMATION |
Ralph Nader is a consumer advocate, lawyer, author, and has been named by Time Magazine as one of the 100 Most Influential Americans in the Twentieth Century. For over four decades Ralph Nader has exposed problems and organized millions of citizens into more than 100 public interest groups to advocate for solutions. In his career as consumer advocate he founded many organizations including the Public Interest Research Group (PIRG), the Center for Auto Safety, Public Citizen, Clean Water Action Project, the Disability Rights Center, the Pension Rights Center, the Project for Corporate Responsibility and The Multinational Monitor (a unique monthly magazine that keeps tabs on corporate behavior internationally). After working for 40 years on behalf of the health, safety and economic well being of the American people, Nader took stock of the situation: “I don't like citizen groups being shut out by both parties in this city -- corporate occupied territory -- not having a chance to improve their country.” Never one to be stymied, Nader responded to the declining influence of civil society over elected representatives by entering the electoral arena himself, and is now on his third major presidential campaign aimed at reinvigorating America’s democracy, in the best traditions of the suffragettes, labor party, and abolitionists of the 19th and early 20th century. In the past decade, Nader has dedicated himself to putting people back in charge of America’s democracy, launching three major presidential campaigns. |
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